I really should've considered the limitations of this ancient relic of a Forum before posting such large images.
thirtythr33 wrote:Thanks, the character sheet is particularly useful.
You're welcome. Let me know if there's anything you feel that needs to be changed.
higgins wrote:That's from a SoSwo board, right? What other TROS derivatives have you played
This was done in the Song of Swords general thread on 4chan's /tg/.
As for what Riddle games & clones that I've played; two TROS campaigns which I enjoyed greatly. It was the first time I really had a sense of a living world in an RPG. I've only done a few fights in Blade of the Iron Throne, I really haven't explored it to the length that I have Riddle or SoS.
Song of Swords I have played an incredible amount of, I believe I have over 3,000 hours in the Roll20 room along with 200+ people that have attended fights or I have taught how to play, saying nothing of the time spent arguing balance or just outright yelling at Opaque to fix their shit.
higgins wrote:what are your general comments on our take? And of course, how did you guys like not looking up the weapon TNs?
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Looking up Weapon TNs was never really a weakness of SoS or TROS, but 'balancing' a weapon with Weapon TN's was certainly a cancer. You really didn't get your money's worth out of a weapon that decided to trade a lower TN for more damage simply because you would get more damage by having a lower TN, so a lot of +3 damage TN8 weapons never saw any real gameplay. Granted one of my favorite characters weaponized a Military Fork + Arming Hook to trip opponents before stabbing their knees/elbows/eyes out.
So far your take on the combat is pretty simple, I feel like it's a cleaned up version of TROS.
The weapons are done in a more narrative style, so that it doesn't matter so much the official historic weapon as the concept is. Which is something I like.
Restraining is neat, prone isn't such a game ender.
Your Death Spiral is probably just as severe, though in a different way, high TNs instead of low dice, both are hard to recover from.
nemedeus wrote:Are TRoS and its successors only present on 4chan's /tg/?
Only present? Riddle was quite popular on /tg/ for a time. If you haven't: go check out the tg archive and look up 'John Galt' to see his old fechts. Otherwise only Song of Swords seems to be the only Riddle thread ever on /tg/.
I really don't know where most of the community has disappeared to.
nemedeus wrote:Also, i guess this means i can kiss any character goodbye that don't use prio A for proficiencies, by default. Friggin death spiral.
Depends on the circumstance you're making the character for, you're not always going to be making a one-shot tourney character to win duels with.
A lot of play testing we did were with characters who had max Proficiency and then enough attributes to get by.
Though we usually rounded out actual campaign characters.
thirtythr33 wrote:Haha. Here's my crack at a fully optimized 1v1 dueling character.
20 CP is nothing to laugh at, that alone makes a character quite a capable combatant.
Though making her female for no groin shots is just cowardly, give that poor girl a dick.