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thirtythr33 wrote: Will Francesca be staying at the D'agnolo's or the Acerbi's?

I think we should escort her to Eleanora. And if they allow me, I could stay there to keep Francesca safe, that's my new SA.

thirtythr33 wrote:How many people are hiding out at the woodcarvers at a time?
How many days you are willing to do so before giving up?
What times you are staking out (just nights, or days too?)?

Alex is in charge, it's his plan

thirtythr33 wrote: Whether anyone is staying with Francesca or Claudio (or just checking in on them)?

Me with Francesca. Cirillo checking Claudio?

thirtythr33 wrote: Is anyone spreading the same rumors around at the Fencing School?

We should do this. That's the job for Cirillo, I think.

thirtythr33 wrote: What weapons/armor is everyone carrying with them?

If I'm to stay with Francesca and Eleanora, I think I should take all of my gear (armor and weapons) there. I can't fight with rapier, but Eleanora...

My general idea is: Karl, Giorgio and Ferran hide at the woodcarver. Cirillo will be in move, checking Claudio, spreading rumors at the school and discreetly checking our ambush (ready to assist, if needed). Marco stays with Francesca. Do you guys agree?
But first, I will ask Cirillo to take care of my arm, if there's time for that.

Since there was no broken bone, I think Marco's arm will heal in 48hrs from when hurt.

Oh, so I think we have a time limit for our ambush at the woodcarver. 48 hours. Two nights. If nothing happens during that time, Marco will leave Eleanora with his arm healthy, lokk for the others and we will think about the next move.

Yes, Cirillo checks Claudio after seeing to Francesca.

If Cirillo will roam the city alone, furious Rocco and his goons on the loose, he will wear all his "hardware" and medical kit.

Any suggestions where Cirillo should go after visiting the fencing school? It is possible someone will follow him. It could be good that they find out the house but it can also spoil our surprise.

Marras wrote:Any suggestions where Cirillo should go after visiting the fencing school? It is possible someone will follow him. It could be good that they find out the house but it can also spoil our surprise.

Good point. Seems like Acerbi Household is the obvious choice. You should be safe there, you can keep an eye on Claudio (and Giacomo and Blasio...) and prepare for your tutor's visit.
But these are only my suggestions. Let's see what Alex and Danny and Benedict think.

Equipment: I will wear my gambeson and carry two daggers with me. No helmet. Obviously no place for a Zweihander inside a woodcarver workshop
Depending on how things turn out, I might do some good old fashioned brawling and try to hold him while other people stab him...
I might bring a club or something similar, but that will depend on what we intend to do with Blasio (keep him alive or not...)

Cirillo should try to avoid any contact with Rocco. We are going to have enough trouble with Blasio already. That is why I was hesitant about spreading the rumour at the fencing school, but at the same time, we cannot stay in ambush for a week, so I'm okay with spreading the rumours. Cirillo should restrict his movement in town: either stay at the Acerbi household with Francesca or he can stay in ambush. His choice.

I don't trust Farran as he is a total stranger who just arrived at a strange time. But we could use an extra hand, so I will simply keep an eye on him for now. Farran could even stay outside the woodcarver's place: Blasio will not recognize him as one of the Acerby bodyguard. At the same time, I think we could plan our ambush well enough so that when we spring it, Blasio has no easy way to escape.

Will Francesca be staying at the D'agnolo's or the Acerbi's?
Acerbi is fine for me.

How many people are hiding out at the woodcarvers at a time?
I will stay in hiding. Anyone feel free to join me for some fun The more the merrier.

How many days you are willing to do so before giving up?
We are staying for at least two nights, than we will reconsider our plan.

What times you are staking out (just nights, or days too?)?
Staking out at night only, but making sure at least one person can drop by many times during the day.

Questions for everyone: what do we do with Blasio if he shows up at the woodcarver's place? We are probably going to be 3 armed guard, so I expect violence. Killing him seems too much for committing a rape. Also, I expect that killing a noble is a big thing. At the same time, he is a powerful noble so if we simply injure/humiliate him, we will make a powerful enemy. I don't have an easy solution

Things to keep in mind: Blasio might show up with his own guards...

Obviously, it is a very general plan. I am more than open to suggestion on how to make things more interesting!

Alex wrote: Questions for everyone: what do we do with Blasio if he shows up at the woodcarver's place? We are probably going to be 3 armed guard, so I expect violence. Killing him seems too much for committing a rape. Also, I expect that killing a noble is a big thing. At the same time, he is a powerful noble so if we simply injure/humiliate him, we will make a powerful enemy. I don't have an easy solution

Things to keep in mind: Blasio might show up with his own guards...

Killing is highly not recommended. Use clubs or grappling. Take a rope or two to tie them up. I don't know if Blasio is the man we are looking for. And if he is, he might just send his goons, not show himself. You would have to interrogate them.
Our objective is to find the rapist and make him pay for it. Use sharp steel in dire need only.
I have no idea what might happen. You will have to decide on the spot. You can't prepare for everything

I think Cirillo will get back to Acerbi household after visiting the fencing school. He will walk past the woodcarver's house (provided someone shows's him where to find it) on his way back.

It is entirely possible that there are at least Rocco's men loitering around the fencing school so it may not be possible to avoid contact with Rocco and/or his gang.

So, does he just go to school and imply that we have a witness and see what happens?

Marras wrote:So, does he just go to school and imply that we have a witness and see what happens?

Well, yes. Just apologize for the commotion we created the last visit and, you know, mention: "oh, by the way, we have a witness etc."

Korbel wrote: Well, yes. Just apologize for the commotion we created the last visit and, you know, mention: "oh, by the way, we have a witness etc."

Something like that was on my mind

Korbel wrote: Killing is highly not recommended. Use clubs or grappling. Take a rope or two to tie them up. I don't know if Blasio is the man we are looking for. And if he is, he might just send his goons, not show himself. You would have to interrogate them.
Our objective is to find the rapist and make him pay for it. Use sharp steel in dire need only.

I agree, but I don't see an easy solution. We beat him up with clubs, than we tie him up. And after that? At one point we will have to release him. And now we will have a very mad noble with a lot of ressources and a grudge against us. And everytime we will want to have a quiet drink in a tavern, we will have to watch our back in case he sends someone to stab us...

I guess feuds between noble families were common and probably settled with money at one point. But before an agreement is reached, we are going to be easy target for Blasio.

Although killing him seems a bit extreme, I see less consequence in the long term. We kill him and dump his body in an alley. Although it becomes more complicated if he shows up with his own bodyguards...

And since we are OOC, I would keep this discussion from Marco. As a noble, he will not have to fear the same retribution as we do.

And as far as Karl is concerned, there is no doubt that Blasio (or anyone else) is guilty if he shows up at the woodcarver's place.

Question for 33:
What does the law say about commoners beating up a noble?
Who would take the blame and the associated fine (or worse): us or the noble family for which we work for?
What about the penalty for taking the law into our own hand?
If we decide to kill him, unless we are caught in the act or there is a witness, there is no way we can be held accountable by the law?

Alex wrote:And now we will have a very mad noble with a lot of ressources and a grudge against us. And everytime we will want to have a quiet drink in a tavern, we will have to watch our back in case he sends someone to stab us...

A nobleman isn't likely to hold a grudge against the mercenary that came to rough him up I think. More likely he views you as a puppet being controlled by Marco.

Alex wrote:Question for 33:
What does the law say about commoners beating up a noble?

Technically, according to the law, there is no difference between a nobleman and a commoner.
In practice, it's very bad idea for the commoner unless he has really good reasons. Technically he has the same rights as you, but he knows the law inside and out, he has a lot of money to throw around for bribes and help and he probably has a couple of friends on the panel of judges.
Think of it kind of like assaulting a Judge in today's world.

Alex wrote:Who would take the blame and the associated fine (or worse): us or the noble family for which we work for?

The men who did the assault would definitely be up for the small fine (assuming they didn't justify their force).
The family may be up for a nothing or a huge fine, depending on if Blasio could show that the Acerbis were mounting a coordinated attack on him. Realistically, the law probably wouldn't trace back to the Acerbis but the politicking around the city would.

Alex wrote:What about the penalty for taking the law into our own hand?

Murder > Death
Theft > Huge fine or death on repeat offences
Maiming > Large fine or a year or more in jail
Rape > Variable. Depends on the class of the victim. Fine is equal to her dowry.
Assault > Small fine or a few nights in jail if you cant afford

Alex wrote:If we decide to kill him, unless we are caught in the act or there is a witness, there is no way we can be held accountable by the law?

Very likely true.
The only way it could come back to you is if a friend or family of his was sure enough you did it to take up the cause themselves. For example, Giacomo could challenge you to a duel or Blasio's family might just murder you back. Or they could take you to court and pay someone to give false testimony or something.

So I think we are ready to go?

Korbel wrote:

thirtythr33 wrote: Will Francesca be staying at the D'agnolo's or the Acerbi's?

I think we should escort her to Eleanora. And if they allow me, I could stay there to keep Francesca safe, that's my new SA.

Alex wrote:Will Francesca be staying at the D'agnolo's or the Acerbi's?
Acerbi is fine for me.

Where are Marco and Francesca staying?

Also, Cirillo please roll Social + Streetwise Ob3 to spread rumors at the fencing school.

thirtythr33 wrote:Where are Marco and Francesca staying?

If this is possible, we could invite Eleanora to Acerbi household, they will be safe here. If not, I will go with Francesca to stay at Giorgio house. If not possible, me and Francesca stay at Acerbi and don't involve Eleanora.